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  1. love2eatinpa says:

    i’m with you, heather. it is assinine and ridiculous. french fries are not vegetables! potatoes are vegetables and are nutritious. imo, by virtue of anything being fried, it takes it out of the category of being nutritious, especially something as small as a french fry, where there is hardly any potatoe involved to begin with.

    • Lori says:

      But frying doesn’t take the nutrients out of the potatoes. I’m not saying I think french fries are the world’s healthiest veggie, but adding fat to veggies doesn’t somehow remove the nutrients. I’d still put a french fry in the category of vegetable, although they certainly aren’t the most nutrient-dense veggies out there.

      But I do make oven fries (with both white potatoes and sweet potatoes) as a side at home and I’ll sometimes consider it our starch for the meal, and sometimes consider it a veggie.

      • love2eatinpa says:

        i apologize, lori, if i came on a little too strong there.

        i think fries made in the oven are definitely a good thing. i guess what came first to mind was fast food places – their fries are so skinny, there can’t be much potatoe in there. 🙂

      • mamaV says:

        Hi Lori: I see where you are coming from. I think that at its core, when you deep fry anything, it ruins the nutrition because its buried under all that grease.

        Fries are the farthest thing from nutritious and I think we are kidding ourselves if we try to make them anything other than a junk food.

  2. living400lbs says:

    Fries are potatoes, which are not animal or mineral. (boom-tish 😉

    Seriously, if you’d consider mashed potatoes a vegetable I’m not sure fries are any different — other than much more work, unless you have invested in a fry cutter and deep-fat fryer. Broccoli, green beans, or a salad is a heck of a lot simpler and easier.

    When eating out I do enjoy skin-on sweet potato fries. They’re much more flavorful and also stick with me longer than the typical McD’s fry — probably due to more fiber, but also they’re usually made fresh.

  3. sleepydumpling says:

    French fries are potatoes, which are vegetables.

    If you julienne and fry carrots, sweet potato, pumpkin, parsnips, or any other vege you can do so… does that stop them being a vegetable?

    However, there are many tasty, less junky ways that potatoes (and any other vegetables) can be prepared and served to feed kids for school lunches.

  4. Nikki says:

    French fries are not the same as a boiled or baked potato. One is full of trans fats and saturated fats, the other isn’t. One will raise your cholesterol, the other won’t. One has more calories and more grams of fat than the other. Can we please not pretend a french fry is the same as a healthfully prepared potato?

    Lori, I totally get the idea of healthfully preparing a comfort food, but students at school are not being fed healthfully prepared food. Their food is sad. 🙁

  5. For the purposes of guidelines on making sure that every school lunch contains a “vegetable”, I don’t think French fries should count. Yes, potatoes are vegetables but for the purpose of nutritional balance, they’re more of the starch component of a meal. I don’t believe they’re evil, but I think we all (including our kids) could use some more of the colorful types of veggies in our diets. Getting enough starch doesn’t seem to be as pressing of an issue. I’m not saying that they should be banned but they shouldn’t replace other vegetables completely, either.

  6. Jessica says:

    If you feel inspired by Jamie’s campaign, he has created an online petition, promoting healthy food for children, that he will present to the White House. You can find the petition here: Pass it along!

    • living400lbs says:

      *raises eyebrow*

      I think he’d also need to get Congress on board to make any real changes. Presidents have veto power, yes, but only on new laws; existing laws that guide agricultural and school policies are not going to be changed by a President waving his magic wand.

    • living400lbs says:

      (AKA: encouraging people to write their congressional representatives and the president themselves might do something, if you can get enough people involved.

      Of course for all I know Oliver’s producers have already setup the PR event with Obama’s people, and the petition is just window dressing.)

  7. Suzie says:

    I saw this episode and had to tell my boyfriend about it because I was in SHOCK that the french fries were considered an acceptable vegetable. It made me CRAZY. So ridiculous.

    • Suzie says:

      Yes I realize potatoes are a vegetable, but in a balanced diet, you can not count having ONLY potatoes as getting your recommended vegetables. They are a starch, which is also important, but you still need other vegetables like: leafy greens, colourful peppers, tomatoes, broccoli, cauliflower.. etc. Potatoes in my view are a middle ground between flat out carbs and a vegetable. I consider a potatoe a better substitute for a grain than for a vegetable.

  8. julie says:

    French fries are made from veggies, but it doesn’t follow that they’re healthy. I compromise, make oven roasted potatoes/sweet potatoes/turnips/beets, other starchy veggies. I leave the skin on, even on the beets. Didn’t Reagen declare ketchup a vegetable, too, for the purposes of meeting the numbers for school lunches?

    Lots of junk food is made from corn these days, corn is more grain than veggie, but most of that isn’t healthy either.

  9. Paul says:

    Whether French fries (or Potatoes for that matter)are called vegetables or not- it’s just a matter of semantics.
    The issue is whether french fries are healthy and should be included as part of a school lunch program is the issue. My opinion, french fries are NOT healthy- and I’ll tell you why…to begin with, they’re made from Potatoes, which have very little going for them to begin with. Yeah I know Vitamin.C, which you can get from many other better sources. The few good things about Potatoes (aside from taste) are far outweighed by one very bad thing. Being a starch (remind me, why do we need starches in our diet?), it’ll raise your blood sugar-then your insulin. Keep doing this daily, over the course of decades, you’ll probably become insulin resistant, then pre-diabetic, then type 2 Diabetic, and if you live long enough, an Insulin dependant Diabetic. Now, if you’re an athlete, and you now about timing your ingesting of starches, they may have a place in your diet-trust me, this will not be the case for 95 pct. of the population. OK, so much for the Potato. Next, fry this item of questionable value in hot oil-from what I understand all oils (except coconut and lard) when heated take on the characteric of aTRANS FAT. A double whammy for your poor arteries. Bottom line, call it a vegetable or not, it’s in no way, shape or form healthy, and in most cases, downright dangerous (eventually). Sorry, Potatoe growers of America.

    • living400lbs says:

      Being a starch (remind me, why do we need starches in our diet?)

      According to the Registered Dietitians I’ve spoken with, carbs are the preferred food for brains. (All together now: “Braaaaaains”)

      You’ll probably become insulin resistant, then pre-diabetic, then type 2 Diabetic, and if you live long enough, an Insulin dependant Diabetic.

      You may want to check out the diabetes myths page at the American Diabetes Association.

      • julie says:

        Thanks for commenting here, my eyes glaze over anytime someone starts in on “eating carbs raises insulin thus gives you diabetes” shinola. Like zombies.

  10. Paul says:

    I won’t go into a serious lengthy discussion or debate with anyone who tows the party line of The American Diabetes and The American Dietetic Associations because it most likely will be fruitless. For anyone who’s really interested in finding information, it can easily be found, but you’d probably want to go to other sources besides the two ADA’s

    • wriggles says:

      This from someone who thinks calling a vegetable a vegetable is a matter of “semantics”.

      People in glasshouses shouldn’t throw stones.

  11. FatNSassy says:

    Oliver is asinine and ridiculous. He is nothing but a sensationalist who capitalizes on fat stigma to get attention. Not that he never has a valid point, only that he doesn’t have to trot out every stereotype in the book along with tacky theatrics to make them. Fundamentalist ministers have some valid points about society too, but we reject them when they are ranting against unwed mothers. Or threatening us with eternal damnation. All theatrics to increase their power over us through guilt and fear. Just like the slimy Limey OLiver!

    I can’t believe this ditzy dieting demagogue is being given this much attention. The show is not even very good to be the topic of so many blogs. Which makes me wonder if all these articles aren’t planted as part of a PR campaign. This site was accused of astroturfing from the very beginning and perhaps that was an astute observation.

    • mamaV says:

      Hi FatNSassy: I respect your viewpoint, but disagree with the thought that the focus of the food revolution is “dieting.” Why are you perceiving his point of view this way?

      Regarding this blog, and the possibility that these articles are “planted” — hehe, you are as paranoid as I am 🙂

      Seriously, I really like the show, and I am the one writing all about it. This is about KIDS, not adults that are free to do what they please with their bodies. Kids that have no option but to eat the food they are served, and in many, many cases I see convenience taking priority over nutrition. Families brought up on fast food, when the dinner hour is the most important time of the day to connect.

      Tell us more about the “stereotypes” you see in the program? Here, I would like to focus on the morbidly obese category of the children featured in the program. How can we possibly overlook a child who is morbidly obese, being fed meals of fried foods daily, and is genuinely interested in learning how to cook? How to think different about food? These kids don’t even know what a tomato is for goodness sake!!! This kills me.

  12. FatNSassy says:

    Oh and Paul, while I am not going to defend french fries as healthy, you are very off in suggestion that starches will eventually lead to insulin dependent diabetes. That is pure nonsense. People ate starches for centuries and many people who did not die of infectious disease lived to ripe old ages without getting diabetes. Modern diabetes is caused by endocrine disrupters in the environment that alter metabolisms with weight gain as a side effect. Far easier to blame fat than clean up the environment. MSG and yo-yo dieting also contribute to diabetes but we don’t here MSM tell us about that very often either. That there are so many hidden causes of diabetes is sensational in itself. If Oliver had any guts at all, he would be interviewing CEOs to ask why they are killing people instead of making laughing stocks out of rural kids in West Virginia.

    Speaking of jokes, all those disease associations like the American Heart Association and Diabetes associations take big $$$$ from Pharma. So of course they are not going to tell you the whole story. Diabetes is big business in this country. Why would they want to cure it? They have a gold mine!

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