Saturday, October 22, 2016

‘RapeLay’ video game is beyond words.

March 30, 2010 by  
Filed under Body Image

WARNING: This post contains graphic content.

Lissa just sent me a link to this story from CNN about the RapeLay video game. Yes, it is exactly what sounds like – a “game” allowing players to rape a woman.

Actually, you  MUST rape in order to WIN;

The game begins with a teenage girl on a subway platform. She notices you are looking at her and asks, “Can I help you with something?” That is when you, the player, can choose your method of assault. With the click of your mouse, you can grope her and lift her skirt. Then you can follow her aboard the train, assaulting her sister and her mother.  As you continue to play, “friends” join in and in a series of graphic, interactive scenes, you can corner the women, rape them again and again. The game allows you to even impregnate a girl and urge her to have an abortion. The reason behind your assault, explains the game, is that the teenage girl has accused you of molesting her on the train. The motive is revenge.

I found this lovely review of this POS on SomethingAweful;

In the past Hentai games have often catered to casual rape enthusiasts. These are perfectly normal folks like you, me and your next door neighbor who only leaves his apartment to buy canned meat and plastic tarps. I like to think of this audience as the “beer and pretzel” rape gamer. They’re interested in a fun “pick up and play” rape game and they don’t want to get bogged down in details. Then there are the rape grognards who want a rape simulator to be as realistic as possible. They want it to include accidental pregnancies, crying, abortion, threat of murder, fuel mixture, full elevator control, and pre-rape start-up checks. RapeLay is the grognard’s rape simulator. It is the Falcon 4.0 of rape.

Language: Japanese and some horrible fan-made English translation.

Sexual Content: The original game includes a pixilated mosaic, but the fan-made English translation includes various uncensored textures. That includes my personal favorites; the bloody penis and vagina.

There is a supposed International outrage going on over this filth commonly known as “Hentai” or pornographic comics, but thus far leaders in Japan have not responded to CNN after weeks of calling and attempting to contact them. In the meantime, the thing has gone viral (this post isn’t helping), so its useless really.  As Japanese games are released, they are immediately digitized and launched online. We simply can’t control the content that is created, posted, and shared on the web….what to do?

Your guess is as good as mine.



77 Responses to “‘RapeLay’ video game is beyond words.”
  1. lissa10279 says:

    This is sick, sick, sick … now the question is, what the FRIG do we do about it? I’m seriously disturbed … this is heinous to the nth degree.

  2. Shelly says:

    That is bad. Really bad.

    I am at a loss for words.

  3. Mike in Philly says:

    I think this blown out of proportion. Boys need an outlet to the world around them. Boys interpret the world through violence. This game is no different then any video game. It’s not that big of a deal.

    • lissa10279 says:

      I cannot believe you actually had the gall to write that, Mike in Philly. Honestly. Honestly.

    • Suzie says:

      This is a big deal. So are games where you win by killing people. Our society is becoming completely desensitized to horrible behaviours. The fact that someone could say this isn’t a big deal is just proof.

      As someone who has been sexually abused I am disgusted that this is even described as an “outlet”. Fantasizing about raping someone should NEVER be a way to release stress. This is completely unacceptable.

      • Mike in Philly says:

        Lots of women fantasize about being rape as a way to release stress. You should use your abuse as strength not a weakness.

      • Frankie says:

        I really don’t have a problem with this game. We see so many violent games/shows/Movies etc. As for children getting ahold of this game, its called parenting look it up. It involves a parent actually being involved in thier childs life. As for releasing stress, I suppose you rather kids release stress by beating kids/adults in the streets, taking guns to school, stabing someone. The fact of the matter is this is a political ploy and is a total media blowing something out of the water.

    • Linda says:

      Sounds cool. Girls need an outlet for all the stress they feel about misogyny. How about a video game where girls stun gun a guy on a subway platform, castrate him, and slit his throat. Because it would just be a video game.

      • Mike in Philly says:

        Exactly, what ever works.

        • Linda says:

          But if you believe in free speech, why are you ripping on the free speakers who hate this game? They have as much right to say what they think as players do to play.

          I can see ripping on people who want to take legal action to ban it, but free speech is a two way street: The company that made this and the people who play it are not entitled to escape condemnation, if that is what people are thinking. The idea of free speech is to allow ideas in society to be shaped by the rough and tumble of expression and counter expression.

          • Mike in Philly says:

            What in the world are you commenting about? Who is ripping anyone?
            You need to get your emotions in check. Your comments read like a little girl, Linda.

          • Linda says:

            “Telling people what to do is just rude” sounds like a rip to me, or anybody else who is able to read. Of course, that group might not include you.

          • Mike in Philly says:

            If you think that’s a rip than you are bonkers.
            I think you might need to take something for your
            emotions. Like some prozak or something.

          • Linda says:

            And “morality police” doesn’t sound like a rip either. Let’s make a deal. I’ll take prozac for my moods, if you take something for that spelling problem 😀

          • Mike in Philly says:


          • Linda says:

            And that reading comprehension thing, too. Calling people “morality police” and “rude” because they disagree with you is a rip in the world we live in. Your planet may vary.

          • Linda says:

            Free speech is limited when it becomes hate speech. That is what these videos are, hate speech against women and children. Those who play these “games” are emotionally unstable and I can guarantee you that a few will act out these “fantasies”.

    • 1noelle says:

      Mike do you have a daughter or younger sister or nieces….talk to them and tell them ‘it is not that big of a deal.’

      I am sure it would not be a big deal to have a game that tortures and mutilates animals and/or people too because ‘boys’ need an outlet? That statement is our problem….an excuse to allow behavior that is NOT acceptable.

      I am a woman and have hormonal moments that I have to control even when I want to totally wig out. We are to be a responsible race with intellect and moral standings.

      I hope you can reflect on that again Mike. I pray!

  4. mamaV says:

    Dear Mike in Philly: Where exactly are the video games with boys being raped? This is not just about violence, and you know it.

    Do you have any daughters?
    Didn’t think so.

    • anon says:

      “Where exactly are the video games with boys being raped? ”
      In Japan and in large numbers, mainly played by 20+ women.

    • Mike in Philly says:

      Don’t tell me what I know. Games are a release. If you don’t like the game then don’t play it. Don’t tell people what they can and can’t do if it’s not hurting anyone. Telling people what to do is just rude.

      • Linda says:

        But it is hurting people. You get addicted,then you play more, and then you are desensitized, and then you think nothing of punching a woman or literally pushing her against a wall trying to fondle her or forcing sex upon her. I teach 8th grade boys, and I will tell you, they do watch this stuff and it IS affecting them. It affects them from the comments they make to female students (and teachers) and physically pushing and hitting in the hallways.

    • Lori says:

      Do you have any daughters?

      Or sons. Because I’d be horrified if I found out my son was playing a game like this when he’s older.

      I do agree, actually, that video games can be a release. And, fantasy violence or clearly unrealistic violence doesn’t bother me at all. But, when we’re talking about games with this level of realism, that is a problem. And, I think it’s also a problem when we’re talking about enacting violence that is generally directed at one segment of the population. To me a game where the goal is to rape women is no different from a game where the goal is to lynch as many black characters as possible, but I would hope we wouldn’t see people defending the latter as “just a release.” Both are basically celebrating and promoting hate crimes.

      • mamaV says:

        Great point Lori, I should have included our sons in that statement, because I to would be appalled if my son showed interest in such a game.

        I agree too that these games can be a release. Take Grand Theft Auto for example, my nephews have played that for years and they get it — its not reality nor do they have the impluse to act out in similar ways.

        This is about WOMEN. It is about the progress women have made and not made in society. This is about respect and sexuality, it crosses every possible line that exists.

  5. Suzie says:

    this makes me cry

  6. .C. says:

    Guys, Mike in Philly is just a Troll. Mods, please ban him. Everyone else, ignore him and he will go away. Let’s focus on the post, not on his attempts to get a rise out of us.


    • Mike in Philly says:

      Why because I have an opinion different than yours. Because I live life rationally and not irrationally like you. I don’t call people names. You do. You should be banned.

  7. Jaimee says:

    I guess I don’t really see the difference between something like this and Grand Theft Auto, or any of the other realistic violent games out there. Japan comes out with absolutely bizarre, often fetishist stuff CONSTANTLY. Yeah, it’s gross. Yeah, it’s crude. But it really is just a game.

    I guess I would feel more upset if there was also a study presented that said that video game players who play violent games engage in more violent behaviors.

    My guess is that they just spend more time in their mothers’ basements.

    PS: Something Awful is a comedy website. Again, crude, often gross humor. But none of that is meant seriously.

  8. Nell says:

    The game is sick. Sicksicksick!!!

    I’ll not get on the definition bandwagon here, but if you’re citing hentai as being all like this, it’s not. There’s hentai dating sims, hentai manga, hentai animated gay sex, hentai animated vanilla sex. When read as its base kanji, it just means weird, strange or mutated behavior or appearance. It has become a mainstream word and has changed meanings in English. Hentai is basically an appropriation of a foreign term that has a passing connection to the original (hentai CAN be used as a slang word for pervert). What it is used for as a definition is as diverse and broad in spectrum as AVs.
    <– gets off of soapbox
    I have to add that games in the Japanese market are hugely different than the American market. Sure, this game is at the very most perverted edge of the spectrum, but there are a lot of dating sims or even sex games available for both men and women. I make no excuses for the game, it is absolutely disgusting, but the type of game (not the content) is nothing abnormal. Just like there is no need to have "international outrage" concerning hentai (what is so bad about "normal" comic pron?), there is no need to have "international outrage" concerning this type of game.

    It's the game itself that should be boycotted, and others like it. You can write the fansubbers, tell them how disgusted you are at their choice of subject. You can ask the police to try tracing the ones that have made this kind of game available in English (as far as I know, this is aiding and abetting in the production and distribution of pornographic materials without proper safeguarding). You can vent your outrage here. Just try not to generalize.

  9. Simone says:

    There is such a massive difference between this an other violent video games.

    Look, violence is bad, okay? I’m against it. But, according to my personal beliefs, it’s very possible to create a scenario in which a character can be violent, licentious, or whatever, without making the character a truly evil person.

    I believe there are some situations where it’s frankly understandable for someone to kill another human being. There is never a reasonable motivation for rape. It’s just torturing of another human being. Ugh.

  10. Phil says:

    the bottom line is that if you do not like it, don’t get the game it is that simple. If you do not know the difference between real and make believe then you have whole other issues as well. And finally if you do have kids and don’t want them to play the game then block there account from downloading it, the problem though is the kids probably know more about computers than there parents. Mike in Philly you have a great point about having a different opinion and people wanting to ban you, keep posting and don’t let people like .C mess with you!

    • Linda says:

      This is hate speeh. Pure and simple. It is criminal activity of the mind. The idea that a “normal” male could play such a “game” is schizophrenic.

  11. Kiersten says:

    That is absolutely disgusting. I am appalled that things like this even exist.

  12. Suzie says:

    I think this is a good opportunity to really question what type of “entertainment” is popular. Why is it that it’s acceptable to play a game in which you are killing people, raping women.. why is it that that is considered a necessary release. I believe that games like this completely desensitize the population and continue the perpetual cycle of violence and hierarchy of power.

    I would NEVER want my children thinking this was a game that is acceptable.

    You don’t have to look far to find studies showing how violent video games make for more agressive children:

    “… the effects are that exposure to violent video games increases the likelihood of aggressive behavior in both short-term and long-term contexts. Such exposure also increases aggressive thinking and aggressive affect, and decreases prosocial behavior.”

    I’m sure that you could conclude the same for violent sexual content.

    If your fantasy is to rape someone: you have a problem and need to get some help. I’m sure the person who abused me had the same fantasy. He was just lucky enough to be in a situation where he could play it out for real.

    Allowing people to play out fantasies like this just blurrs the line of what is acceptable and what is not.

    • Mike in Philly says:

      These games are for adults. Adults should be able to choose the type of entertainment is best for them. Not a bunch of soccer moms or the morality police.

      • Jaimee says:

        I guess that sums it up for me too. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Children should not play games unsupervised, which is a separate issue from the game itself.

        If you don’t like it, write your senator and ask them to draft a law banning such things. Otherwise, it’s legal (as far as I know).

        There are a lot of things that horrify and disgust me. I certainly am not enthused about this game. But if you hate it, do something about it.

        • Mike in Philly says:

          The Game is banned. The company in Japan stopped making the game. But once it gets on the internet anyone can get it.

          • Jaimee says:

            Then really, I guess, it’s a non-issue. It falls under the same category as many other “things we don’t like,” such as child porn, snuff videos, and other nasties.

          • cggirl says:

            I don’t think it’s the same category.

            To make child porn, you actually have to involve a child,
            thus committing, not just simulating, a criminal, deplorable act.

            With snuff videos, you commit murder.
            (Unless I misunderstand what snuff films are. Maybe it’s simulated?)

            Anyway it’s different to simulate something than to really do it.

            Of course I still understand it’s debatable whether it’s ok to simulate it
            for mass entertainment…

        • Lori says:

          I really don’t think the only choices are either trying to get something banned or just deciding it’s dandy and you won’t say anything about it.

          Personally, I’m opposed to censorship. So, I don’t think this game should be banned. I still think it’s disgusting, wrong, and degrading, though. And, I think talking about the problems with it, and thinking through why a game like this might appeal to people and why that appeal is problematic, and connecting the culture we live in with the kind of “fantasies” people play out in games are all also appropriate responses to this kind of game.

          There are all sorts of ways we can respond to things between just ignoring/accepting them and outright banning them. Would I want my child playing this game? (Well, since my son is 5, obviously not, but if he were a teenager, I still wouldn’t want him to.) No. But, I’d be more likely to respond to his desire to play it by asking him to write an essay defending what value he thinks the game has and why it’s okay to play then just outright saying, “No, absolutely not.” I’d rather have a conversation about what I find problematic about it, and hope that he would choose to not play it. But I do recognize that ultimately I’d have far less control than I think about what he’d play, so just saying, “No, you can’t play this game” wouldn’t be very effective.

  13. cggirl says:

    I find this horribly disturbing. I also wonder where and how do we draw the line. To those that say this is ok, what if it was a child molestation game? Ah who am I kidding, the animated girls (and boys) in these games already look like little kids.

    Anyway, I certainly don’t have the answers. After all, we can’t revoke free speech, or limit people’s sexual fantasies. People are allowed to fantasize absolutely anything. Perhaps our focus should be to somehow limit he exposure of children to this sort of thing. Because I do think at a young age, graphic games and movies are not healthy. I’m not sure how to enforce it but that’s my general feeling I guess – that the focus should be to keep this out if children’s hands, and when someone is an adult, I am not sure how or if we can legally ban something like this.

    • Simone says:

      Yeah, I’m all for limiting this kind of stuff, and not just for children. For example, I do not ever, ever want to see this crap when I’m trying to shop at a mainstream book, movie, or video store, unless maybe it’s in a special section in the back.

      That would just make me feel threatened and uncomfortable.

  14. mamaV says:

    Hi All: I going to give Mike from Philly from leeway here, he is expressing his point of view and thus far has not crossed the line.

    • Regina T says:

      I fully believe that Mike from Philly has crossed the line…for a variety of reasons. The main one being that comments such as “If you don’t like the game then don’t play it” , or “Don’t tell me what I can and can’t do that isn’t hurting anyone” do nothing (especially on a blog geared towards feminine self esteem) but continue the belief that his way of thinking is harmless. And that is definitely the wrong message for this blog. Sure, we all pick and choose things to get outraged about, and a sycophant such as Mike probably isn’t worth more than a passing thought….but his message crosses the line in such a way that it bears digging deeper into it’s ramifications.

      The truth is, Mike’s “You don’t have to like it, just don’t play it” mentality is so commonplace in society today in regards to an issue that HURTS WOMEN EVERYWHERE, that it needs to be shut down swiftly. Why? Because that attitude….the attitude that you should just ignore it….keeps the cycle of violence against women going. If you choose not to get up in arms about a video game that appeals to TEENS making a game out of rape, then you are hurting all women everywhere. That teen or young adult who plays this game over and over gets desensitized to rape…starts to suppress how truly violating and violent rape is. It loses its shock value. Rape, in all forms, against all individuals is an abhorrent act that at it’s very core seeks to demean and devalue one individual over another. It is power-mongering at it’s most primal and damaging level, and serves as another tool of oppression and human degradation.

      Rape hurts both women AND men. It hurts a woman’s ability to trust men, it’s hurts men’s ability to see women as equals, it creates a genuine and very real divide that keeps women and the less privileged oppressed, taken advantage of, and without the ability to live as successful a life as they could–including a life without fear.

      To allow Mike’s comments, especially this one–“Lots of women fantasize about being rape as a way to release stress. You should use your abuse as strength not a weakness.”–confirms that “boys will be boys” mindset that is everywhere in society. It sends the message that in some instances it IS ok to rape, and allows those who have been raped to feel violated once again…BECAUSE YOU ALLOWED HIM TO SAY IT ON A BLOG ABOUT EMPOWERMENT OF WOMEN! If he gets to say that women sometimes fantasize about rape (and incidentally, we DON’T–the “fantasy” they’re talking about is one that is fully consentual AND occurs in a TRUSTING environment on a level playing field where the woman retains her control AND doesn’t include real violence)….if he is allowed to write that comment on THIS blog????? Well, then he gets to continue the cycle of violence against women and the place that you created that examines the challenges women face in a variety of issues (especially peace with one’s body) becomes just another avenue for him to sTROLL down spewing his oppressive beliefs about real human beings.

      If you allow it once, what message are you sending? Why not stop it EVERY time? Why give his ideas a voice? Especially a voice that is so misguided, so misogynistic, and one that only serves to keep the rapists and potential rapists powerful enough, confused enough to continue seeing women as objects of conquest. Why not take a stand against this way of thinking? That it’s NEVER okay to think that women “want” to be raped? That women should NEVER be viewed as “less than” or “unequal”? Why allow this blog to be a place that misinformed men can come to EXPLAIN how wrong we women are for getting so upset over a silly little game of rape?

    • 1noelle says:

      I have to support mamaV on this decision even though I don’t support Mike’s point of view. It is so important that we have a forum that everyone can express their opinions even if it is not the favored opinion.

      It is hard not to get emotional about certain subjects and to refrain from name calling but we must in order to have conversations that are effective and informative.

      I have to say that the entire idea of this game sickens me but in the end, parents need to supervise and control what their children do and adults have the freedom to purchas and play whatever they want. I don’t want that freedom taken away. I just won’t endorse or purchase a game like that.

      • cggirl says:

        Regina – I too was annoyed by Mike’s comments. Especially where he tells someone how they “should” react to a traumatizing event. There are much more respectful ways to state the same opinion.

        That said, I don’t agree that saying its okay to play a rape game is the same as saying it’s okay to rape someone.

        I mean, Mike used the example of sexual fantasies about rape. I don’t think there is anything wrong with such fantasies if they are only in someone’s imagination, or if it’s some sort of mutually agreed to role-play. And I think Mike feels that this game is just a form of fantasy.

        So the question is – do you disagree that fantasy on this topic is ok? Or do you disagree that a game like this is a different category than fantasy or role play? And what about pornography – is that any different? Is porn depicting rape storylines wrong?

        I’m not asking this to be annoying, I’m genuinely posing these questions, which I think are really what this debate is about…

        And a note to Mike – I think you will reach more people with your point of view if you’re a little more respectful of their experience as well. Trying to understand the other person’s point of view even if you don’t agree, and showing them through your language that you DO respect their feelings even if you disagree, might make it easier for you to actually convince people of your point. Not that you have to do any of that, it’s just a thought. Plus, you know, there’s something to be said for being nice and trying not to hurt people’s feelings even if you disagree with them.

        • Regina T says:

          @cggirl who wrote: “So the question is – do you disagree that fantasy on this topic is ok? Or do you disagree that a game like this is a different category than fantasy or role play? And what about pornography – is that any different? Is porn depicting rape storylines wrong?”

          “Fantasy” is harmless within the confines of one’s own mind. It is when it is normalized and acted upon that it becomes dangerous to others. If a fantasy stays a fantasy, then it doesn’t hurt other people. What hurts people is when those fantasies lose their privacy and the fantasy starts to become normalized. There’s a pathway there that others can be affected by.

          The fantasy part of this is not what I take issue with. I take issue with allowing someone such as Mike a platform on this blog. Yes, his opinions may be commonplace and held by many other people, but what are they doing on a blog such as this? Would you want someone who plays these rape games to date your teenage daughter? When you let someone make comments on a blog about female empowerment that convey an “it’s just a silly little rape game?” message, what does that say about this blog?

          Rape is never a game. It’s more than just a sex act. It’s an act of destruction. It’s purpose is to allow one person sexual, emotional, and physical dominance over another human being. It’s a mindset that takes to the extreme the view that women are objects, less than, insignificant, and something to be conquered. Allowing it does nothing to break the chains of the stranglehold of seeking bodily perfection at all costs. Isn’t that what this blog is about? Addressing the reasons WHY we seek that which is fleeting at best, and deadly at it’s worst?

          So here’s a scenario for you: Janey Doe, a 19 year old secret bulimic comes to this blog to read about REAL women. She sees this post about a video game called RapeLay and reads Mike’s comments minimizing this game’s impact. She reads that MamaV is giving him a pass for his comments because he “hasn’t crossed the line”. Janey Doe then remembers that she overheard some guy in her college Psych 101 class once discussing this game in graphic detail with his friend. At the time, she thought it was disgusting that he would be laughing about something as serious as rape. But now she sees that on this blog about women taking control of their lives and calling BS on the trappings of perfection in our society……she sees that the blog owner thinks it’s ok for another guy to comment that it’s just a game. Janey Doe then dismisses her own initial response as flawed, dumb, overkill, silly, mistaken. Now she’s just lost some of her own power. The power to discern what’s right or wrong for her. She now questions her motives, her thoughts, her beliefs in other areas as well. She begins to think that she can’t win and must really work harder to be thin and beautiful….because she must have been mistaken about her beliefs if this blog says it’s ok for him to say those things.

          I may be giving this blog more power than it really has…but words have power. We all have gone through what Janey Doe has in our lifetime. It’s how we learn, evolve, adapt, and futher our knowledge. We listen to the words of others, we see how they act, then we decide if that’s how we want to think and act. Janey Doe may decide further down the road that she is not okay with a game about rape, but she didn’t get there from reading this post on this blog.

  15. CandiceBP says:

    Ordinarily I support the idea that everyone should be allowed to do as they see fit as long as they aren’t harming anyone else, but this one is too far for me.

    Per the Salon article on it, “It’s a game that allows one to simulate the experience of boarding a train, groping a schoolgirl, and subsequently raping her, her mother, and her sister, hearing them utter dialogue along the lines of “I w-w-want to die,” and gradually converting them into compliant women who enjoy sex with you, while taking post-rape pictures of them and making them get abortions so that you do not die. (The moral of this story would seem to be that rape is fun and games, but fatherhood is a killer.)”

    I can’t support that. Salon also points out that the game is “designed with a one-handed interface for all the reasons you’d imagine that to be necessary.”

    Yes, men and women have rape fantasies. But mature, sexually active adults act those out with partners they trust 100%. Games like this do not involve the type of mature conversation and negotiation that acting out a fantasy does.

    Rape is not a game. Period. I do not fully buy into the idea that violent video games cause violent behavior (having done a fair amount of research on it) BUT this does not include those with violent tendencies or potential. There are those for whom this game will provide a creative outlet and behavioral model.

    In addition, I don’t believe the subjugation and rape of women is appropriate material for a video game. Ever.

    Repeat: Rape is not a game.

    • cggirl says:

      Candice, I get what you’re saying but isn’t a video game just a way to act out the fantasy without a partner?
      Not everyone has a partner, or one who is ok with it. I don’t think pornography featring rape is necessarily something we can expect to get rid of either.
      It’s true that with a loving partner you can come up with something you’re both comfortable with beforehand but that’s not the part the person fantasizes about.
      It would be NICE thoughto include some serious words of caution and a mature discussion of these issues at the start of the game, but I don’t think the consumers of this game want that… They either know already that rape is horrible in real life, or they don’t know or care in which case tellig them may not make a difference.
      Also in porn, we can certainly legally limit things that cause harm to te participants -like you can’t film someone underage because they are too young to consent, or you can’t hurt someone against their will. But in animaton and
      games I am just not sure how we can legally limit it without crossing a line we don’t want to cross. I mean, what if someone decides what you or I fantasize about is illegal to fantasize about? What if it’s a racy novel with all sorts f morally questionable acts – should u be arrested?
      I’m appalled by this game too but I think the only thing we can do is try yo make sure only adults are exposed to it, and only if they are seeking it out I think.

      • Simone says:

        I think there is a real difference between something like this game and consensual BDSM with a partner–or even watching some BDSM porn. I’m pretty vanilla myself, but my kinky friends tell me that in an consensual BDSM situation, there is a duality between pretend violence and degradation, and real respect. You can simulate your rape fantasy, but at the same time, a part of you knows that your partner enthusiastically consented to the whole thing. Presumably, you have pre-arranged signals that will stop the scene if the submissive partner becomes frightened or overwhelmed.

        Otherwise, you’re just a terrible dom.

        I think something similar holds for kinky feminist porn, where the actors and actresses perform on their own terms.

        When people play games like this, the duality between domination and respect just isn’t there. There isn’t a need to maintain a certain level of respect, even tenderness, for a bunch of pixels.

        So yes, paradoxical as it may seem, I think it’s less problematic to play out rape fantasies in real life (in a consensual, ethical BDSM situation) than on the computer.

        Weird, huh?

    • tom brokaw says:

      And how is murder a game?

      You know how many people I killed in GTA IV?

      Cops and hookers and innocents?

      Good god that was a fun game.

      Are you on board to ban that? You would ban half of the games produced in this country. You would be banning WoW. Are you ready for that kind of nerd rage?

      • Simone says:

        The quality of the violence in the game matters, as much as the quantity, or even the motivation.

        I am much more comfortable with a “blow the heads off” game than with a game that features graphic torture, of any kind–which the game certainly does.

        Rational? Maybe not. Logically consistent? Sure.

  16. lissa10279 says:

    Irony? April is Sexual Assault Awareness Month. And we’ve had two very provocative posts related to this (sad) topic.

    • mamaV says:

      hmmm— that is the type of thing that makes me think, I tend to not believe in coincidence.

      What type of formal action could we be taking?

      • lissa10279 says:

        I know, that’s what I’m trying to wrap my head around … maybe a bigger post combining these two, with a call to action … but for what? Not just raising awareness … maybe asking women to take a stand against these “acceptable” uses of free speech?

        • Nell says:

          Maybe including some reasons for speaking out against “rape speech” in everyday life? It is demeaning to both parties after all. I know that I’ve been very vocal whenever I see one of those tees that “call for it”. How about posting pictures of particularly offensive tees and demolishing the words/pictures on them?

          We could also try, in the spirit of the list that was posted ( to add our own reasons/items each day, or comment on one item on the list each day (or week), e.g. how we experienced a certain situation (wearing a skirt, wearing long hair open) in our everyday life. I think what is most memorable to most “average guys” (at least those I know) is seeing a situation like “walking alone at night” through a woman’s eyes. I once graphically described the sheer panic that gripped me when one of my friends followed me home from the club we’d been partying at, the desperation that allowed me to outrun a guy on the track team. He only wanted to give me a scarf I had left behind.

          Maybe we could also give some advice/offer some tips for women in dangerous situations- I know that I escaped at least once due to the “breathe and go limp!” command instilled in me in TKD class. I’ve learned today that here in Germany there’s a new trick to drug someone- offering them a drugged calling card at a gas station (you have to get out of your car and pay inside the station everywhere here). Let’s try raising awareness for the absurd and dangerous ways the minds of perverts can work.

          Umm… that’s my ideas for now, anyway.

  17. Game says:

    This has to be an april fool joke surely, no country in the world would be likely to allow this game anywhere near people?

  18. Willow says:

    To be perfectly honest, my first reaction (I am a 22-year-old female) was that I would like to download and play the game. What is the issue here? I read/watch/play material like this online all the time, usually for free. My favorite free erotica site has an entire section for stories about nonconsensual situations. More people than some of you might think enjoy this type of material.

    • Mike in Philly says:

      That’s so hot!

      • Willow says:

        And you’re a troll. :p

        Seriously, though, check out any adult roleplaying site and see how many “Mdom/F” requests you find. As a general rule, I’ve discovered that most of the women on such sites are insistent upon playing the submissive role in a violent or pseudo-violent fantasy. If you post that you are male and/or willing to play the male role in such fantasies, you will be swamped with replies.

        • Simone says:

          That’s really interesting. Thank-you for sharing your persepctive.

          It’s a funny think. As I posted above, I’m all for healthy BDSM relationships/dating/sex in the kink club bathroom. But this game still makes me uncomfortable.

          I object to this game because it exists in a particular cultural context, where women are much more likely to be victims of sexual violence, and where so many men feel that they have a God-given right to access women’s bodies.

          If this game existed strictly as a fetish thing (as opposed to as a mainstream game that people played for the lulz), and in a non-sexist society, I think I would actually be okay with it.

          It’s similar to the way I’d be okay with the ubiquity of absurdly padded bras, if guys still ran around wearing codpieces.

  19. Gabi says:

    i only just stumbled on this now as ove been away for a long time, and i dont visit a lot of the old sites i used to as the trigger me way to much.

    firstly my heart nearly stopped when i saw this. I have been sexually abused, sexually molestered and raped. All from different men including family. As a result of these at the height of my eating disorder and other addictons i started prostituting to sustain them. Nobody unless you have been through the same, has a right to say to start using what happened as a strength not weakness. Everybodies mind and the truama of it works differently. I was 8 when it first happened to me. I didnt remember until my second time in rehab while i was going through another time at the age of 13 when i was attacked by three boys from school.. a regular occurance at school for me having developed early but this time was different. Having a memory of being 8 years old and having something like that happen to you come flooding back in is so traumatising i cant even begin to tell you. You want to forget the memories. And you wish you could again if they hadnt been killing you.

    Secondly this comupter game is like fiction has become reality. In one of the seasons of law and order special victims unit there is an episode where a kid reads a japanease magazine about a hero whos powers are to rape women. Fiction has actually become reality and its sick.

    Unforutunately today, there are some people who are influenced by these games, whether it be killing games, spy games or this rape one. Its only a matter of time until somebody turns this fictional game into a reality.

  20. Frankie says:

    Everyone needs to get a clue. Mike is right when he said it was just a game. The first thing people need to realize is if you wanted to stop this from ever being created there were many different times. Now that its getting media attention everyone is bandwagoning. First off there are many different fetish hentia that are very similar to this game. If you didnt want the game you should have stopped the videos. Before that there were comics. Stop the comics you stop the video. This is just the next form of entertainment.
    And for all of you that are going to say “you think rape is entertainment.” Yes I do if its in a video game, if its in real life its a crime. Just like the shooting people and stealing cars in GTA, Shooting people in Call of Duty, Knifing people in Assasins Creed, Blowing people up in Mcgrubber, Feeding people to animals for entertainment in Starwars, etc.
    Everyone needs to separate reality from fiction. Because you all need to realize that it becomes stupid once you watch any crime on TV and find it amusing.

  21. Um wow, this post is a little disturbingly true!

  22. wtf says:

    1st off wtf are plastic tarps
    2nd you liked the bloody penis and vagina
    3rd beer and pretzel” rape gamer ? are you some kind of werd pun guru

  23. wtf says:

    4th it is just a fukin game get over your selves
    5th fendom porn is deming to men and should be taken awey from you perverted women….yha now how do you fell

  24. JT says:

    I’ve just found this site, and after reading a majority of the comments, regardless of whether anyone sees my comment or not, I have to say something: What is wrong with people now?

    Both sides are at fault here, and it’s absurd to me. People express their opinions here, and are attacked, and those who have an opposing opinion but aren’t aggressive are treated as if they want to fight.

    Is rape wrong? Absolutely. However, one thing people need to realize is that a video game, book, movie or some other media may influence a person’s behavior, the interactions they have with others has a much alrger impact.

    For example, I was surrounded by violence as a child, had TWO female family members molested, and until my father found out, was around people who thought child molestation was okay.

    Now, I’m a preferred pacifist (meaning I’ll keep things non-violent as long as the option is there), with a severe white knight syndrome, to the point I become very violent if a see a man even consider hitting a woman, let alone molesting her.

    I play violent video games, and have since I was a child. However, because I had a mother who at least tried to be active in my life, I was taught right from wrong, and reality from fiction.

    When did things like this stop being an issue about parents being involved in the lives of their children and coming to know them?

    Media will always be a scapegoat, regardless of what form it is. first it was music,then books, now video games, and if the past is any indicator, the next form of media entertainment will be blamed once it comes into existence.

    My point is, if parents raise their children instead of letting machines do it for them, then their children may not grow up thinking games like these are actually proper examples of how they should behave.


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